[Becky]

Yes, tylan powder! My pug did not have pancreatis. They never diagnosed her but the vet said she showed symptoms of colitis, possibly IBD. It was never as bad as I’ve heard IBD can be–never any bloody diarrhea. Just constant, projectile, liquid diarrhea. Everything went straight through her. The Tylan seemed to do the trick. Here are some links about it:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=10935

https://www.vetinfo.com/canine-diarrhea-tylan.html

[Becky]

I have 3 pugs and they’re all different about their potty preferences. One will go anywhere, anytime. The other goes pretty much only on schedule and only in her own yard. The 3rd, my middle child, is the nightmare… She hates to go on a leash, hates to go in front of anyone, people or dogs, and will only go 3 times a day. What finally helped with her, was giving the other 2 a treat, then taking her out with her treat. She knows now that as soon as she goes potty she gets her treat so she goes pretty quickly. 🙂

[Becky]

Thank you

[Becky]

I was just logging off and saw this–have to comment. I just ordered another harness tonight from Little Paws Apparel on Etsy and I LOVE her stuff. It’s very durable, but very easy to put on and off and very comfortable for the dogs. She’s wonderful to work with and her prices are reasonable. I’ve ordered from her for years. Here’s the link: https://www.etsy.com/shop/LittlePawsApparel

[Becky]

I’m coming to this late but your lab/bulldog sounds a lot like my pug. I don’t know about the digestive enzymes, but she can’t eat any dry food. I tried many different brands, including Rx for sensitive stomachs, alternative proteins, etc, and nothing worked. She had pneumonia when she was about 4 mos old and was on a lot of antibiotics (she almost died) and we think that messed up her whole system and gave her c-diff and chronic diarrhea. She’s 3 now and she can eat ONE kind of canned food. It took almost 2 years to figure out which food worked. She also takes Tylan powder, just a tad every other day. That saved her life, I think.

[Becky]

I went through 2 years of this with my pug. Finally our vet tried an antibiotic powder called Tylan, or Tylosin. It was a miracle cure! I think you can order it without a Rx, but I would recommend going through your vet to get the right amount. We started out with it in capsules, 1 with each meal, but now I just sprinkle a tiny amount on her food once a day, and soon we’ll try every other day. Apparently it’s not the type of antibiotic they can build up a resistance to so it’s OK to be on for a longer term than the typical antibiotic. Plus, it beats the alternative of constant diarrhea!

[Becky]

http://www.vohc.com is in Chinese or Japanese or something…?

[Becky]

I love this site! Every time I come here I find what I’m looking for. I have a pug with this staining issue, but it’s more a saliva problem than the tears. All around her mouth and chin is stained. Her tongue hangs out of her mouth so anywhere she lays she leaves stains, and she licks her feet so they’re stained, too. Her breath has a metallic smell to it.

She’s on Rx food for bladder/kidney problems so I can’t really change her food. I do give her filtered water, for the bladder problem. I use stainless steel bowls. She’s 12 and this staining thing just came up a few months ago. She’s been on the same food and water for years. I mentioned it to the vet tech when she was in for a nail trim and she said it was probably allergies.

I’ve been wiping her face already (she’s a pug….). Any other suggestions? I wish I could stop it inside her mouth before it comes out in the saliva all over my house!

[Becky]

This may be too simple, but have you tried probiotics? It wouldn’t hurt, even along with new food.

[Becky]

I’m the one whose dog had the allergy tests and it showed she was allergic to everything. But she’s my foster and it was her original family who did the testing. One strange thing, though, it showed she was NOT allergic to corn! But as I’ve had her for over a year, I’ve also found she’s allergic to sweet potatoes and barley. Or at least she gets diarrhea when she eats something with that in it, so I’m assuming she’s allergic or sensitive to those.

She’s on a food that agrees with her, she eats carrots and blueberries for treats and I found some Nutro grain-free treats without barley she can eat and she’s happy. (with her Atopica) She’s getting adopted Sunday after a year! I’m going to miss her so much but it will be good for her to have a forever home.

Does anyone else use acidophilus? That seems to help with her stomach issues, too.

[Becky]

definitely–and that’s what we pay them for! If you can’t trust your vet with your dog’s food, you might want to find another vet.

[Becky]

That’s not necessarily true of all vets. My vet doesn’t push any particular food and always goes for any natural, holistic treatments first. But, those don’t always work in every situation.

[Becky]

It’s also available as a generic–cyclosporine. It’s still kind of expensive, but much cheaper than the brand name. Have you looked into that? Even if you can get her on it for a little while to give her some relief. I’m serious when I say it’s a miracle drug. Another place you could check is http://www.thehonestkitchen.com They’re not real cheap either, but they have some good info on there about nutrition. You mentioned Hills Science Diet–that’s not the same as the Royal Canin Hydrolyzed Protein. One bag of that cost me about $36 which is about what I was paying for the Nutro, so it’s not a whole lot more than a good quality dog food (and less than some of them!) Worth looking into…. Good luck! I know how frustrating it is.

[Becky]

Poor Xena. She sounds as miserable as my foster was when I got her–maybe worse. Ellie has been eating Nutro’s Grain Free Lamb and Potato but if Xena can’t eat Potato, that won’t work anyway. What helped Ellie was the medicine Atopica. It literally saved her life. Her family was going to have her put down because she was so miserable but they couldn’t afford the Atopica. Our pug rescue group got her, thank goodness. Within 2 or 3 days of taking it, she was a totally different pug–comfortable, able to lie down and relax, not scratching and rubbing all the time, the inflammation went down, etc. She also was on an antibiotic because she scratched till she was infected. Anyway, that was a year ago and she’s still doing well on Atopica, the lowest dose.

There’s also Royal Canin Hydrolyzed Protein food. Maybe you could look into that. I’m not sure how it works, but it’s something with the way they take apart the proteins or something. So even if they’re allergic to chicken, for example, they can still get the chicken protein. I may have it totally wrong, but you might look into it. It’s a prescription food available from your vet.

I hope Xena starts feeling better soon. I know these skin allergies are terrible.

[Becky]

You know, I’m not positive. I just know she said the vet recommended the Royal Canin SO. I think she said he had crystals but I’m not sure what kind. SHe just hasn’t been able to find any grain-free.

[Becky]

It doesn’t say it in the link I attached but on the actual news report, the breeder said when she talked to Royal Canin and asked about it they said there were not any recalls or ingredient problems but there had been some “packaging problems.” Interesting.

[Becky]

Jill, have you always had her on the generic or did you start on Atopica and switch over? If you switched, could you tell any difference? EllieMae was so severe the vets said we should start on Atopica and then we might be able to switch over. She’s doing so well I haven’t tried changing anything yet. The poor thing probably hasn’t felt this good in her whole life.

[Becky]

Unfortunately I don’t know much about her before I got her. She came to me through a couple of other people and I know what they had her on but not what her original family had her on. I’ve had her for 7 mos; a long time for a foster! She’s with SEPRA, Southeast Pug Rescue and Adoption, so please spread the word if you know anyone who’s interested in a very allergic pug! (but VERY VERY sweet)

[Becky]

my question exactly–I was just looking for one!

[Becky]

I foster a pug who was surrendered because of her severe allergies. She’d been through all the allergy tests and basically was found to be allergic to everything. They’d had her on meds, steroids, baths, dips–you name it, they did it. They took her to the vet to be put down because she was so miserable and they couldn’t afford it any more. Thankfully, she was rescued. She’s now on a med called Atopica which is unfortunately pretty expensive, but has been a miracle worker for her. When I got her, her skin was raw and bleeding and now she has a beautiful coat. She eats Nutro Grain Free Lamb and Potato. We found 2 things she’s really allergic to are wheat and sweet potatoes and this food seems to be working for her. (knock on wood) And she’s learned to like baby carrots for treats! 🙂

[Becky]

I have a 1.5 year old pug who started with those exact symptoms at about that same age. We went though all kinds of tests and could find nothing wrong. After trying different foods, including prescription, I’ve discovered she can’t eat dry food. As long as she eats canned food, she’s OK. I figure it must be some kind of preservative on the dry food that she just can’t tolerate. She gets baby carrots for treats and chews on nylabones and the vet said her teeth will be fine.

She’s been eating the canned Nutro Limited Ingred Lamb & Rice and now I’m hearing some scary things about them, so I’m a little worried. I came here to see what I could find out. Does anyone know anything about this?

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