[Jeannine M]

I was looking to change from Fromm LBP gold as my dog has light rashy ears and the vet said possible allergy and sometimes his stools have mucous. Had his stools checked several times and no worms, parasites or anything else. Can’t say I care for the ingredients in a lot of the dog foods put I did like the Nulo. A little high on the protein side but thought I’d give it a try. I wrote them and asked about LBP and the requirements-calcium, phos. and ratios and was wondering what others think, is this too much for my puppy? He just turned five months old this week and he is half mastiff half Rottweiler. This was her reply-
Hi Jeannine,

Thanks for reaching out, and for your interest in our products for your Mastiff/Rottweiler puppy!

We don’t offer a formula that’s exclusively for Large Breed puppies, however our FreeStyle and MedalSeries recipes for puppies are formulated to contain nutrient levels that are intended for puppies of ALL breed sizes. This means that the calcium and phosphorus levels within the range for the development of large breed bones and joints. For your review, I’ve listed the calories, calcium and phosphorus levels for our recipes for puppies:

FreeStyle Salmon & Peas Recipe for Puppies:
Calories: 3,627 kcals/kg; 428 kcal/cup
Calcium: 1.48%
Phosphorus: 1.04%
Ca:P Ratio: 1.4:1

FreeStyle Turkey & Sweet Potato Recipe for Puppies:
Calories: 3.742 kcals/kg; 441 kcals/cup
Calcium: 1.49%
Phosphorus: 1.06%
Ca:P Ratio: 1.4:1

MedalSeries Chicken & Sweet Potato Recipe for Puppies:
Calories: 3,652 kcals/kg; 431 kcals/cup
Calcium: 1.43%
Phosphorus: 0.93%
Ca:P Ratio: 1.54:1

Both our FreeStyle and MedalSeries lines are designed to meet the same nutritional standard for healthy pets, are grain-free, and contain our patented probiotics. The key difference between the FreeStyle and MedalSeries puppy formulas is the variety of recipes within each line, and where you can purchase them. All FreeStyle dry food recipes are exclusively sold through independent retailers and are formulated without chicken, which may be a benefit for your puppy’s allergy symptoms. These include our FreeStyle Salmon & Peas and our FreeStyle Turkey & Sweet Potato Recipes for puppies. Our MedalSeries recipes are exclusively sold through PetSmart, and do feature chicken as a primary protein source; this includes our MedalSeries Chicken & Sweet Potato recipe for puppies.

If you have any additional questions as you consider our products, please reach out to me and I’d be glad to help. Have a great day!

Sincerely,

Heather Acuff, M.S.
Nulo Customer Care Manager
512.476.6856 Ext. 111
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On 1/5/17, 2:19 PM, “Jeannine Moore” <[email protected]> wrote:

I am trying to find a food for my mastiff/Rottweiler puppy. He is on Fromms LBP gold right now but inside his ears are light pink and the vet said he might have some allergy issues. I’m super paranoid about food as my 8 year old love of my love mastiff/Rottweiler recently passed from osteosarcoma. I got him back in 2008 when they just started recommending not to feed large breed dogs puppy food and to feed them low protein adult food. At 2 he had tplo surgery and like I said he later developed osteosarcoma when he was 7 1/2 years old and was dead 7 months later. I need a dog food that has the right calcium/phos. ratio along with the calcium ratio to calorie. I don’t know how to factor in the ash and everything else as it’s all too overwhelming! I read you have a vet nutritional specialist develop your food and on staff so I am asking you. Please give me your recommendations on all your dry food that is within the requirements that I have listed so I can start tracking down the food.
Thanks so much,
Jeannine Moore
McMinnville, Oregon

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[pitlove]

Hi Jeannine-

Osteosarcoma can have a genetic link and pediatric spay and neuter can also increase the risk of Osteosarcoma. It’s unlikely that food played any role in the diagnosis.

When your vet suggested “an allergy” could be the cause of the pink ears, did she make mention of what kind of allergy it could be? Food allergies are not common, especially not in a dog so young.

As much as I like Fromm I do hear an overwhelming amount of complaints about loose stool on it. I would choose a food for a growing large breed puppy based on the guidelines of WSAVA. http://www.wsava.org/sites/default/files/Recommendations%20on%20Selecting%20Pet%20Foods.pdf

Most diets from companies that meet these standards will have an appropriate large breed puppy food.

[Jeannine M]

He asked what the meat source was. Also suggested I might want to try a grain free. I realize the osteosarcoma was probably from the neutering too young. Back in those days they said to neuter by 6 mos. for a male, I had him done at 7 mos. I will wait till this one is three if I do decide to neuter. The TPLO surgery I believe was a combo neuter/food issue. Once I learned about cal/phos. ratio in food for LBP I figured out the ratio I feed my other dog when he was a puppy and it was really high. If I remember around 4-5? At the time they recommended low protein/fat and something to do with moisture but I don’t remember. I had him on innovo LBP to begin with then around 5 months when the vet told me they were discovering LBP shouldn’t be having puppy food I switched him to California Natural rice and lamb.
Anyway, for this new pup I’m more concerned over his loose stools and have read many people say the same as you stated about loose stools on Fromm. I feel like for the price of these foods they should have more meat source proteins without all the potato/rice fillers. Hence the Nulo, then realized it was $55/$60 for a 24 pound bag!!😳😬

[pitlove]

20 years of more in depth research has prompted the pet food industry, spefically those companies like Hills and Purina who conduct their own original research, to make large breed puppies foods specifically designed to have appropriate calcium and phos ratios and calcium to calorie ratios. No one who has kept up with current research recommends feeding an adult maintenance diet to a growing large breed anymore. That was common 30-40 years ago when these diets didn’t exist.

I personally can not justify paying 60$ for any size bag of food unless it is a vet diet I need to use temporarily.

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