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Suggested Raw Dog Food Menus?
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Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantAs everyone probably knows, Iām going to be totally obsessed with this new raw food topic area š ā anyways Iāve been checking out other forums for some good discussions to get going and got a great idea from the German Shepherd forum. They have a topic area where raw feeders can post their menus. I think this would be a great tool for newbies to see what experienced raw feeders feed their dogs and also a great opportunity for knowledgeable people to comment about what others are feeding and make suggestions (maybe theyāre feeding something they should, not feeding something they should, etc.). I know when I first started raw I was always looking for menus ā the only place I was able to locate a good menu was on Leerburg Kennelās website.
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This topic was modified 12 years, 4 months ago by
Mike Sagman.
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantIāll get things started. I generally make a one week menu up and feed that menu for 1 ā 2 months. I then make up a new menu with some new protein sources, switch up some ingredients in my supplement and make up a new menu for the next 1 ā 2 months. I started this menu at the beginning of December and Iāll probably feed it through to the end of January (then the dogs are going to break into the venison stash from hunting season š ).
The a.m. recipes are for 3 servings (I divide evenly among my three bloodhounds ā lucky for me they all eat the same amount of food! š ). The p.m. recipes are what I would feed each dog.
SUNDAYS
a.m. -Whole Prey Rabbit
p.m. -24 hour fast
MONDAYS/WEDNESDAYS/FRIDAYS
a.m. -1 lb. 90% Lean Grass Fed Beef
-1 lb. Green Tripe
-1 lb. Beef Organ Blend (Heart, Liver, Kidneys, Lungs, Trachea, Gullet)
-2 C. Urban Wolf Pre-Mix
-1 C. Full Fat Cottage Cheese
-2 tbs. Apple Cider Vinegar with Mother
-1 tbs. Sardine/Anchovy Oil Blend
-1 tbs. Coconut Oil
-800 i.u. Vitamin E Capsule (mixed tocopherols and tocotrienols)p.m. -2 Turkey Necks
-8 oz. Turkey HeartsTUESDAYS/THURSDAYS/SATURDAYS
a.m. -3 lbs. Ground Lamb Supreme (from MPC ā 50% Breast Meat with Ribs, 25% Heart, 15%
Green Tripe, 7% Liver, 3% Kidney)
-1 C. Whole Milk Kefir
-3-4 oz. Pouches Organic Fruit & Veggie Baby Food
-2 tbs. Apple Cider Vinegar with Mother
-2 tbs. Whole Food Multi-Vitamin/Mineral Supplement*
-1 tbs. Reduced Vitamin A Cod Liver Oil
-1 tbs. Omega 3-6-9 Oil with Flax, Borage and Evening Primrose
-800 i.u. Vitamin E Capsulep.m. -Chicken Back
-Chicken Foot
-2 oz. Chicken Gizzards
-2 oz. Chicken Hearts
-2 oz. Chicken Livers
-Whole Egg*Whole Food Multi-Vitamin/Mineral Supplement:
-4 oz. Kelp Powder
-4 oz. Alfalfa Powder
-4 oz. Wheatgrass Powder
-4 oz. Spirulina Powder
-4 oz. Chlorella Powder
-4 oz. Bee Pollen Powder
-4 oz. Turmeric Powder
-2 oz. Garlic PowderAlexandra
ParticipantHi HDM,
That is a great menu! I am still feeling my way through this process, so here is what I have:
I feed the Darwinās naturals for one meal, a different protein everyday. Dante eats a pound per meal and Booker eats 1/2 a pound per meal.
The other meal is a a change up between various hare today grinds, Llama, Goat, Duck, Turkey, Beef, and very occasionally Chicken. Booker canāt tolerate Chicken for two many meals in a row.
With the grinds, they get eggs twice a week, one tbs of coconut oil every other day. Fish oil on the opposite days.
I add minced garlic two times a week.
A tbs of organic Oikos yogurt three times a week.
I was adding Tumeric, but it seems to set off Dante, he gets inflamed from it.
I am going to order some of the Mercola Super Green for the whole food supplement.
How balanced am I?
Ordering chunks from my pet carnivore this weekend instead of the grinds.
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantHi Alexandra ā
Looks good to me! Because youāre feeding the Darwinās for one meal every day I donāt think thereās any need for you to be overly concerned about supplements. All the hare today grinds have the appropriate ratio of muscle meat, organ meat and bone ā so no need to worry about calcium to phosphorus ratios and organ meat amounts. And the fish oil and green supplement will be great for a little extra nutritional assurance.
Alexandra
ParticipantThanks HDM!
Just wanted to make sure they were getting everything that they need.
InkedMarie
MemberThe Whole Dog Journal did a series on home made diets for dogs, I think they had raw in there too but am not positive.
Alexandra
ParticipantHi HDM,
In your opinion, am I better going with the grinds the chunks? My thought is that chunks would be closer to prey.
Thanks
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantHi Alexandra!
Good question. Nutritionally speaking ā as long as both contain appropriate amounts of muscle meat, organ meat and bone ā theyāre the same. However there are some proās and conās to both. RMBs and chunks of meat more closely mimic the consumption of a whole prey animal and provide the dog with dental benefits that ground meat doesnāt. RMBs and chunks of meat are much less likely to be contaminated with bacteria such as salmonella (although with a healthy dog, this shouldnāt be much of a concern). RMBs and chunks generally have a cheaper price per pound (versus ground meat) as well. The downside is that cutting up your own meat is definitely more time consuming and I also find that itās much easier to combine veggies and supplements or a pre-mix with ground meat. I personally feed ground in the a.m. with either a pre-mix or veggies and supplements and RMBs and āchunksā of meat (whole gizzards, hearts, livers, etc.) in the evening. Because youāre feeding the Darwinās for on meal a day you could certainly add your supplements to this and feed chunks and bones for the other meal, then youād be getting the best of both worlds.
Alexandra
ParticipantThanks again, HDM!
Work is hectic, so I donāt get much time for the site during the day. š
I offer RMBās about three times a week as āsnacksā . I wish I had a before picture of Bookers teeth, they are now sparkling white! You canāt tell he is four! š
Would you be inclined to say that the chunks may not be as well balanced as the grinds? I wanted to get them closer to prey, I donāt know if I could do a full prey animal. So I was thinking the chunks would allow them to crunch and tear, etc.
I also wonder if the chunks could slow Dante down a little bit, he inhales, even with a pacer ballā¦.
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantAlexandra ā
As far as the āchunksā sold on Hare Today, my only experience is with the āRabbit Piecesā (the larger version of the chunks). I would say theyāre likely not as balanced as the grinds. With the grinds you know youāre getting an evenly mixed ground prey animal ā with the chunks itās more of a surprise (at least in my experience). As it says in the description ābone included, may include heart, liver, lung and kidney.ā Iāve ordered the rabbit chunks 3 or 4 times and sometimes there were only one or two little pieces of organ in the bag, sometimes there was quite a bit. However, considering you know your dogs are getting one meal a day thatās completely balanced (the Darwinās) youād probably be fine with the chunks ā if there was a little too much or too little organ meat or bone it wouldnāt be a huge deal.
The whole prey animals really arenāt that bad. I started out with the dressed quail and skinned rabbits and finally got the courage to move to the real deal ā feathers, fur and all. If you want to try it, Iād start with the whole dressed quail ā very low gross factor.
As far as slowing Dante downā¦not sure if the chunks would do it. Gertie was a fast eater, I started using a portion pacer and it worked like a charm ā it now takes her over 5 minutes to finish her meal. Mabel on the other hand ā Iāve never seen anything like it. Looking at her eat youād honestly think she hasnāt eaten in a week. I use a portion pacer and she still somehow manages to finish her meal in about 30 seconds flat. When I give her gizzards and hearts she just swallows them whole, no chewing. So if Dante is as bad as Mabel chunks may not even help him ā unless theyāre huge chunks lol
Alexandra
ParticipantLol! HDM sounds like he could race your Mabel! Booker gets half the amount that Dante does and is fed first since he is the oldest, and Danteās food disappears before the bowl is in the standā¦all of this while Booker is STILL eatingā¦. š
Do you just sit the portion pacer on top of the meal or do you bury it in? Maybe I am not using it right?
Dante has removed it from the bowl and then carried around like a toyā¦
I think then I will give MPC a try and order some grinds and see if I can do a prey animalā¦.if I do that they should fast for 24 hours right?
Thanks again! š
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantI just set the portion pacer on top then press it in a little.
Itās not necessary to fast if you feed a whole prey animal. Obviously, if you feed something large like a 4 lb. rabbit you wouldnāt really want to feed another meal for awhile because thatās a lot of food, but the quail run about 8-12 oz. and you could just feed one or two as a meal with no need to fast.
The reason I fast my dogs once per week is because approximately 80% of a dogās immunity is found in the gut. If a dog is constantly digesting food a lot of resources of the immune system are focused on digesting and itās more difficult for the immune system to function at its peak. Periodic fasting once a week or so give the dogās body a change to focus on strengthening the immune system. Going without food puts a mild stress on the cells and as a result the cells become better able to cope with more severe stress if they ever need to (such as when theyāre battling off sickness). This is why I choose to fast my dogs for 24 hours once per week. Iāve read others that only fast once or twice per month but donāt feed anything at all for an entire day (so itād turn out being more like a 36 hour fast).
dowsky
MemberHow do you feel about Bravo! raw. Both blends and balance.
Alexandra
ParticipantHi Dowsky,
I think they are ok. I have used them before. But the store I get them from has them priced pretty high in my opinion and compared to the other suppliers I use.
momofmutts
Participanthello,
I feed raw, and lurk on dog food advisor often, but hardly ever post. I love the new forum. I think itās going to be a hit.
HDM, how do you cope with the dogs during fasting day? 2 of mine are bugging me for their food an hour and a half before meal time. I canāt imagine if they had to go another full day before their next one. My husky cross would often do a self imposed fast every other week or so, but once she was on phenobarb for seizures, she eats every meal. I only feed them once a day, so technically they are going 24 hours between meals already.
They had bear meat for the first time this week with no problems whatsoever!
ā karen
theBCnut
MemberNot HDM, but she feeds twice a day normally, on her fast days she feeds once a day. Thatās my understanding. Yesterday, I spoke with someone who fasts his dog a few times a week, but he feeds huge meals and then fasts until time to feed the next huge meal, like how a wolf would eat.
shelties mom
ParticipantHDM,
I really like your whole food supplement recipe, what do you recommend if a dog is allergic to turmeric? I donāt know if mine will but I read somewhere that a dog was allergic. I have Dr. Karen Beckerās recipe book and will use the recipes as a guide, but really want to avoid any synthetic vitamins in her book. Thatās what holding me up in doing all home-made. Iāve been feeding Darwinās but want to it on my own. I donāt like the pre-mixes from THK or Sojos or any dehydrated food. I prefer all raw and fresh veggies. I can get grass-fed beef, lamb and raw wet bone meal from a local farmer, Iām going to visit some local butchers to see if I can get quality poultrys. Once I can get everything together, Iām ready to start doing it on my own.
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantHi onlywest ā
I add the turmeric because it has anti-cancer properties and is a natural anti-inflammatory. I highly doubt your dog would be allergic to turmeric, however if it is you could certainly just omit the turmeric or pick out another āsuperfoodā to add thatās not in the recipe.
shelties mom
ParticipantHDM,
Thank you for sharing your recipe. This is what Iāve been looking for and will order the supplements from the site you posted. Iām excited to do it on my own as I believe I will have a better control of the quality of ingredients I put in the food.Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantThatās the same way I feel and why I personally choose to make everything from scratch. Iām picky about what my dogs eat and every food or supplement out there thereās either something in it that I donāt want there or something that I wish was there that isnāt. By making my own food and supplements I can completely customize everything.
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantOkay so my dogs have been on their previous menu more about 6 weeks now and Iām about to switch things up for another month or two. Iāll post the new menu Iāll be starting next week to give more ideas to those interested in homemade raw.
Mondays/Wednesdays/Fridays
a.m. (divided between 3 dogs)
-1 lb. 90% Lean Ground Beef
-1 lb. Ground Green Beef Tripe
-1 lb. Ground Beef Organs (Heart, Liver, Kidneys, Lungs, Spleen, Trachea, Gullet)
-1 C. Fruit/Vegetable/Herb Puree*
-1/2 C. Cottage Cheese
-1/2 C. Sprouted Quinoa (run through food processor)
-2 tbs. Whole Food Multi-Vitamin/Mineral*
-1 tbs. Ground Raw Pumpkin Seeds
-1 tbs. Coconut Oil
-1 tbs. Krill Oil
-1 tbs. Apple Cider Vinegar with Mother
-2 tsp. Ground Eggshell
-800 i.u. Vitamin E Capsulep.m. (per dog)
-2 Turkey Necks (approx. 12 oz.)
-8 oz. Turkey HeartsTuesdays/Thursdays/Saturdays
a.m. (divided between 3 dogs)
-3 lbs. Venison Meat and Organ Mix (from a whole deer)
-1 C. Fruit/Vegetable/Herb Puree
-1 C. Kefir
-2 tbs. Whole Food Multi-Vitamin/Mineral
-2 tbs. Sprouted Chia
-1 tbs. Reduced Vitamin A Cod Liver Oil
-1 tbs. Apple Cider Vinegar with Mother
-3 tsp. Ground Eggshell
-800 i.u. Vitamin E Capsulep.m. (per dog)
-Chicken Back (approx. 10 oz.)
-Chicken Foot (approx. 2 oz.)
-2 oz. Chicken Gizzards
-2 oz. Chicken Hearts
-2 oz. Chicken Livers
-Egg (without shell)Sundays
a.m. (per dog)
-2 Whole Prey Quail (Approx. 1 1/2 lbs.)p.m. -Fast
*Fruit/Vegetable/Herb Puree:
(I make up a big batch running all the ingredients through a food processor and freeze in ice cube trays. After they freeze I store all the cubes in giant ziplock bags in the freezer ā each cube is approx. 1 fl. oz.)
-1 lb. Fresh Celery (blanch before pureeing)
-1 lb. Fresh Beets (blanch before pureeing)
-1 lb. Fresh Carrots (blanch before pureeing)
-1 lb. Fresh Kale (blanch before pureeing)
-1 lb. Frozen Butternut Squash
-1 lb. Frozen Spinach
-1 lb. Frozen Broccoli
-2 Apples
-1 Banana
-1 lb. Frozen Mixed Berries (Blueberries, Raspberries, Strawberries)
-8 oz. Frozen Cranberries
-2 Bunches Parsley
-2 Bunches Cilantro
-1 Head Garlic*Whole Food Multi-Vitamin/Mineral Supplement:
-4 oz. Kelp Powder
-4 oz. Alfalfa Powder
-4 oz. Wheatgrass Powder
-4 oz. Spirulina Powder
-4 oz. Chlorella Powder
-4 oz. Bee Pollen Powder
-4 oz. Turmeric Powderpugmomsandy
ParticipantLooks complicated and nutritious!!. Mine are getting some kibble and some freeze dried Vital Essentials tonight! But I will revisit this recipe when itās time for me to make a new batch of homemade food! Thanks for sharing!!
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantNo problem. Hoping it helps some people realize itās not impossible to make a balanced homemade food. š
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantJust noticed a mistake ā not sure what I was thinking when I was typing it out ā but the eggshell amounts should be half of what I wrote. 1 tsp. ground eggshell for the beef recipe and 1 1/2 tsp. for the venison recipe. Sorry. I noticed it and wanted to correct it in case anyone actually wanted to try these out for themselves. š
momtopoms
MemberHello
I started feeding commercial raw a year and a half ago after finding this site. I have used NV, Primal,Darwinās and Stella and Chewys. When I rotated back to Darwinās in November, my poms would not touch it. I bought Dr. Beckerās book and the e books from Whole Dog Journal so I could make my own. The issue I am having is getting my female Pom to eat the vegetable mixes. I made the ones in Dr. Beckerās book and she will eat the meat but if a add just a little veg mix she refuses. I also tried THK Preference. She prefers NV raw over all the other brands. Should I rotate in NV and not force her to eat the homemade with the veg mixes. How often would she need the NV? I also add NL All Food Fortifier. Would that be enough? I just started ordering from Hare Today and they all like the grinds I have tried so far. I also have Brothers on hand in case I am short on time since I work at a hospital and have to go in at strange hours with short notice. Any help would be appreciated.
Susan
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantHi momtopoms ā
Fruits and vegetables really arenāt absolutely necessary if everything else in the diet is balanced and the Natureās Logic supplement does have some freeze-dried fruits and vegetables in it, so this would probably be enough. However, some other options that you could try:
1) Wysong has a supplement called āWild Thingsā ā itās a powder made of freeze-dried fruits, vegetables and super greens: http://www.wysong.net/products/wildthings-dog-cat-supplement.php
2) Essex Cottage Farms has a supplement called āGarden Vegetablesā, also a freeze-dried powder: http://www.efarms.cc/Products%20Page.htm
3) Natureās Farmacy has a whole food supplement called āCornucopiaā and 3 tbs. is the equivalent of a pound of fresh fruits and vegetables: http://www.naturesfarmacy.com/store/details.php?prodId=321&category=
Also, if your dog doesnāt mind pills you could also consider fruit and vegetable concentrate pills made for humans (just read the ingredients list carefully to make sure there is nothing toxic to dogs ā such as onions or grapes). There are many different brands that make these, but some I can think of off the top of my head that would be safe for dogs would be Puritanās Pride 10 Vegetable Multiplex, Wysongās Salad and Schiffās Fruit & Vegetable tablets.
shelties mom
ParticipantHDM,
I have trouble figuring out the correct calcium ratios. When I grind a whole bird (chicken, turkey, duck) with gizzards, hearts, livers..do I need to add more boneless meat? I often see 80/10/10 formula, do you know a whole bird has 10% bone in it?Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantHi shelties mom ā
A whole prey animal will have the correct muscle meat/organ meat/bone ratio. The 80/10/10 model that raw feeders use is based on an approximation of a whole prey animal. So as long as youāre including all the organs the ratio will be in balance. Some animals are slightly higher in bone than others ā for example a rabbit or cornish game hen will have a slightly higher percentage of bone than say a whole deer or cow ā but it doesnāt need to be exact. As long as youāre somewhere between 7-13% bone you should be good.
shelties mom
ParticipantHDM,
Thank you for your expertise. Iām so glad we all can come to you with questions.weimlove
ParticipantHi everyone!
I have finally got Shadow eating a COMPLETELY raw diet š
Since this is his first week of no kibble at all, I wanted to share my menu with you all and see what you think. Please keep in mind that this menu has extra bone in it to help keep his stool firm over the transition and next week I will add less bone.What I did so far is pre-package a weekās worth of meals in freezer bags.
The meals include:
ā 1 half of a chicken leg quarter
ā1 small peice of a chicken back
ā 1 chicken wing
ā 3/4 of a pound of ground chicken
ā 3/4 pound of sweet potatoes
ā 100 iu vitamin E
ā 1 tsp of a kelp/alfalfa mix powder (petkelp)
ā 1 pump of fish oil that also contains a small amount of vitamin EShadow is given this meal twice a day. So far, his stool has been great, and extremely small! He also seems more excited to eat his meals, and I love the fact that it cleans his teeth too! Does anyone have an easier way for storing meals? The freezer bags are kinda pricey! Thanks!
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantHi weimlove!
Glad to hear Shadow is finally on a 100% raw diet š
It looks like youāre off to a great start! Just wanted to remind you that a dog Shadowās size should be getting 400 i.u. vitamin d per day ā some good sources are cod liver oil, cage free eggs, kefir, some varieties of yogurt and cottage cheese (check the label), oily fish (sardines, mackerel, salmon) and beef liver. 10% of his diet should also consist of organ meat (5% liver, 5% other organs) ā this can be fed as one or two completely organ meals per week or small amounts of organ meat can be fed each day. And donāt forget variety once you make his next menu ā lots of different types of meat and different fruits and vegetables.
Unfortunately, I canāt help you too much with the storage issue. Maybe invest in some tupperware containers? It would probably be cheaper in the long run rather than using ziplock bags all the time. All my dogs eat through a batch of food in one day so I donāt have to worry about freezing portions.
weimlove
ParticipantHdm- ok thanks for the reminder I thought it was 200 iu daily. I also plan on introducing organ meat in small amounts probably tomorrow, shadows tummy is upset very easily do Iām trying to do things gradual. I have been giving him some canned salmon with his dosage of vitamin e, fish oil, and kelp in a kong for a treat while Iām gone. Is it ok to freeze those ingredients?
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantWell the vitamin d would depend on how much food heās eating a day. The general rule is 200 IU per pound of food. I was guessing a dog his size would eat around 2 lbs. a day ā you can reduce it if he eats less than that. I would add the vitamin e before feeding and not freeze it, Iāve heard freezing can decrease the potency.
weimlove
ParticipantHdm- yeah shadow eats around two pounds a day. Ill probably add in some eggs and kefir and yogurt for the vitamin d. Also, where do you feed your dogs? Shadow keeps taking the food out of the bowl and dragging it around the house and if I feed him outside he drags it around in the dirt. Any advice?
theBCnut
MemberItās OK for dogs to eat some dirt. Where I live itās all sand so I only feed one meal a week outside. The rest are in their crates, which are pretty easy to clean. Some people feed on their kitchen floor and mop when done. Some put down a towel, sheet, or tarp and teach their dog to stay on it. Itās all what works for you.
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantHi weimlove ā
My dogs eat all over the place. Gertie eats in the kitchen (sheāll usually drag her RMBās on the floor so I just mop after), Mabel generally eats in her crate or in the kitchen after Gertie is done and Gus eats in the Garage. Dirt wonāt hurt anything ā hey, he may even pick up some beneficial soil microorganisms while heās dragging his food around in the dirt!
pugmomsandy
ParticipantMine eat outside when they get RMB and get plenty of grass and some dirt with them.
Maybe you can train yours to eat in one area like in an empty kiddie pool.
shelties mom
ParticipantHDM and pugmomsandy:
I have a question about a chicken recipe that calls for chicken necks, boneless thighs and breasts. Do you think itās OK to replace the chicken necks portion with chicken feet? I started giving chicken feet to my small dogs and they love it, it takes longer to chew than the necks. Would you say they have the same nutritional benefits?Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantHi Sheltieās Mom ā
The calcium to phosphorus ratio of chicken feet is 1.06:1, whereas the calcium to phosphorus ratio of chicken necks is about 1.6:1. The calcium to phosphorus ratio of both chicken feet and necks are in balance, however the ratio in the feet is so low that it wonāt provide enough calcium excess calcium to balance out the phosphorus in the breast and thigh meat. Chicken necks and backs are the best way to balance out the phosphorus of boneless meat in a chicken-based recipe. You could certainly feed the feet on some days but on those days I would recommend supplementing enough calcium to balance out the phosphorus in the boneless meat youāre using (about 800-1,000 mg. calcium per 1 lb. boneless muscle meat, 1,000 ā 1,200 mg. per pound of boneless organ meat).
shelties mom
ParticipantHDM,
If I use whole chicken with bones /or thighs with bones with chicken feet, then is it balanced?
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantA whole chicken is going to have a balanced calcium to phosphorus ratio. A bone-in breast or thigh should be in balance, although it will likely be on the higher side. Are you grinding this recipe? If youāre grinding it I would just prepare the recipe according to the instructions and then feed a chicken foot in addition to their portion of the prepared recipe.
shelties mom
ParticipantYes, I will be grinding the chicken and will follow the recipe, thanks for your help.
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantThe dogs are moving through the venison supply quickly so Iāve formulated their next menu. Iāve always fed my dogs so much variety and their yearly blood work has always come back normal, so Iāve never been overly concerned about nutrient profiles. This time however, I decided to actually take the time to run a full nutrient analysis on their new menu. What a headache! It took me a few days of slaving over the calculator, however Iām happy to say their menu exceeds the AAFCO nutrient profile for all life stages. My main focus for this menu was cutting costs, while maximizing nutrition and variety. Because I know this menu is ācomplete and balancedā and thereās a lot of variety, along with the fact that this will slice about $100 of the monthly food bill ā Iāll probably be sticking with this menu for awhile. Breakfasts are divided into three equal portions (one portion for each dog) and dinners are what I would feed to each dog individually.
Mondays/Wednesdays/Fridays
Breakfast:
Makes 3 Servings:
1 lb. Ground Beef
1 lb. Green Beef Tripe
1 lb. Beef Offal Mix (Heart, Liver, Kidney, Spleen, Lungs, Trachea, Gullet)
3 eggs
3.75 oz. Tin Sardines Packed in Water
1 C. Kefir
16 oz. Frozen Broccoli, Cauliflower, Carrot Mix*
1 Bunch Fresh Parsley, Minced
2 tbs. Whole Food Supplement**
2 tbs. Ground Hemp Seed
2 tbs. Ground Sprouted Sunflower Seeds
1 tbs. Coconut Oil
1 tbs. Apple Cider Vinegar with Mother
1/4 tsp. Himalayan Crystal Salt
3,000 mg. Cod Liver Oil
1,400 mg. Calcium Citrate
1,500 mg. Fruit Concentrate (Blueberry, Cherry, Orange, Strawberry, Raspberry, Cranberry)
1,050 mg. mg. Raw Multiple Glandular (Liver, Brain, Stomach, Kidney, Heart, Spleen, Pancreas, Duodenum, Thyroid, Thymus, Adrenal, Parotid, Pituitary)
600 IU Mixed Tocopherols and TocotrienolsDinner:
2 Turkey Necks (approx. 12 ā 16 oz.)
6 oz. Turkey HeartsTuesday/Thursday/Saturday
Breakfast:
Makes 3 Servings:
12 oz. Skin-On Chicken Necks, ground
12 oz. Chicken Gizzards, ground
12 oz. Chicken Hearts, ground
12 oz. Chicken Livers, ground
10 oz. Frozen Spinach*
10 oz. Frozen Butternut Squash*
8 oz. Canned Oysters
1 C. Kefir
2 tbs. Whole Food Supplement**
2 tbs. Milled Flaxseed
2 tbs. Sprouted Pumpkin Seeds
5 Cloves Garlic, minced
1 tbs. Coconut Oil
1 tbs. Apple Cider Vinegar with Mother
1/4 tsp. Himalayan Crystal Salt
3,000 mg. Cod Liver Oil
1,500 mg. Fruit Concentrate (Blueberry, Cherry, Orange, Strawberry, Raspberry, Cranberry)
1,440 mg. Colostrum
600 IU Mixed Tocopherols and TocotrienolsDinner:
Pork Neck (approx. 20 oz.)Sundays
FAST: 1 C. Broth (made with THKās Ice Pups) with Animalsā Apawthecary Detox Tincture morning and night.
*All vegetables are cooked and pureed.
**Whole Food Supplement: 1 part kelp, 1 part spirulina, 1 part alfalfa, 1 part wheatgrass, 1 part bee pollen powder.http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a501/hagelult/NutrientAnalysis_zps9f3e4b46.png
shelties mom
ParticipantHDM,
Your recipes look very nutritious! May I ask where you get the Raw Glandular supplement? And where can I find sprouted seeds?Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantSighā¦I wish this forum let you edit posts! There should be three eggs added to the chicken mix.
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantI sprout my own seeds. I buy them raw and have a my own sprouter. Iāve seen pre-sprouted seeds for sale though ā health foods stores might sell them and I know nuts.com does. I grind mine in a coffee grinder. I order my raw glandular supplement from Swanson itās called āNatural Sources Raw Glandular.ā There are lots of other good quality glandulars out there too.
theBCnut
MemberHDM
I must ask. Where you list 2 turkey necks(12-16oz), is that both turkey necks together? I have to have turkey necks cut by the butcher, because ours are well over a pound, and Iām wondering how that affects the meat: bone ratio.
Hound Dog Mom
ParticipantHi Patty ā
When I first ventured into raw feeding I fed Primal RMBs and their turkey necks were HUGE ā about 1 lb. each. The turkey necks I get from my new supplier are on the small side (only about 6-8 oz. each), so the weight is for both. Technically, a turkey neck has a balanced C:P ratio, but itās on the high side (about 1.8:1). I would just make sure your dogs are getting about one half the amount of muscle meat as they are RMB. So feed 1/2 lb. boneless meat for every lb. RMB (roughly, doesnāt have to be exact ā a little more or less will still be balanced).
theBCnut
MemberThatās what I do, though Iām sure that our turkey necks have a higher meat:bone ratio because they donāt look like the bones are much bigger. They just have a huge meaty area where they were attached to the body, about 4 times more meat than bone. The head end isnāt so meaty though, only about the same amount of meat as bone.
shelties mom
ParticipantHDM,
Iām confused when to use calcium citrate or bone meal supplement for boneless recipes? Do you rotate the two? -
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