[Jeffrey Andrew A]

I have 2 Shih tzuz, the female one is a fast eater and the male one is slow eater. I heard that for small dogs, Chicken legs/thigh are bad them because of the big bones on them. The female eat the meat first then the naked bone on the chicken.

Other than Chicken legs/thigh, what are good RMB for shih tzus/small dogs?

[Anonymous]

A word to the wise. Forget about it.
Example: /forums/topic/rectal-issues/
I stopped serving my dogs raw bones (or any bones) after 2 trips to the emergency vet due to them.
Not worth the risk, in my opinion.

[pugmomsandy]

I give chicken feet, duck necks and baby back pork ribs to my pugs besides chicken legs/thighs.

[Jeffrey Andrew A]

@pugsmomsandy how about chicken necks?

[pugmomsandy]

They can eat those too. Two will chew, one swallows whole but they are small bones. My large pug swallows his duck neck whole too.

[Jeffrey Andrew A]

Won’t they choke by using small bones?

[Anonymous]

Pet owners and veterinarians have reported the following illnesses in dogs that have eaten bone treats:
•Gastrointestinal obstruction (blockage in the digestive tract)
•Choking
•Cuts and wounds in the mouth or on the tonsils
•Vomiting
•Diarrhea
•Bleeding from the rectum, and
•Death. Approximately eight dogs reportedly died after eating a bone treat.
Above is an excerpt from: “No Bones About It: Reasons Not to Give Your Dog Bones”
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm208365.htm?s_cid=w_c_PetHealth_cont_001#1

[pugmomsandy]

None of mine choke on the bones. The one that likes to swallow, just swallows it down all the way and he still poops out little nuggets like the other two pugs that take their time. He just gets the small neck bones sometimes. It’s gone is 2 seconds. I do like to make their food as well so I grind up necks to use for the bone content and add muscle meat and organs. For a recreational bone, they get beef ribs or marrow bones which they can’t eat and gnaw on it for days. Once in a while I’ve given them whole quail too and oddly enough, no feathers in the poop. They also eat whole sardines about 6-8 inches in length. Sometimes they’re not thawed all the way so it’s more like a sardine-sicle.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u651/pugmomsandy/pictures%20for%20posting/IMG_60801024x821_zpsad7d39eb.jpg

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u651/pugmomsandy/IMG_7694_zpsb6950e88.jpg

[Molly M]

@Anonymous….

The “bone treats” to which you’re referring
are not the same thing as raw meaty bones.
Bone treats are processed, packaged foods.

[anonymous]

Yeah, I know that.
Raw meaty bones are even more dangerous. Proceed at your own risk.

Make sure you have the nearest emergency veterinary clinic number posted on your fridg.
I speak from experience.

[Spy Car]

Zombie thread. Never too late to spam a raw feeding subforum with scare tactics and misinformation.

Hilarious when one considers the number of dog’s killed by tainted dog food every year.

Why do the Admins allow such trolling?

Bill

[Molly M]

Amazing how canines and felines have survived for millennia, since their biologically appropriate foods are so hazardous. Lol

[anonymous]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

More Nonsense from Holistic Vets about Commercial Therapeutic Diets

(excerpt from comments below)
skeptvet says:
May 20, 2018 at 11:02 am
“Natural” means being infested with parasites, suffering from malnutrition and dying young. What is “natural” is not necessarily good. You are mythologizing a life you and your dog have never had to endure. This is called the Appeal to Nature Fallacy, and it is a common misconception now that most of us are so unfamiliar with what life without modern science and technology is actually like.

[Spy Car]

AAFCO rules allow for condemned animal parts, and those from dead, downed, and diseased animals (including dead pets) to be used in kibble, so long as the foul ingredient are first rendered.

It is hilarious that you are tying to suggest human quality food items that have passed USDA inspections are more dangerous than the vile ingredients legally used in dog kibble. LOL.

Please stop this nonsense.

Bill

[anonymous]

“It is hilarious that you are tying to suggest human quality food items that have passed USDA inspections are more dangerous than the vile ingredients legally used in dog kibble. LOL”.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/meat-preparation/ground-beef-and-food-safety/ct_index
Excerpt below

Is it dangerous to eat raw or undercooked ground beef?
Yes. Raw and undercooked meat may contain harmful bacteria. USDA recommends not eating or tasting raw or undercooked ground beef. To be sure all bacteria are destroyed, cook meat loaf, meatballs, and hamburgers to a safe minimum internal temperature of 160 °F (71.1 °C). Use a food thermometer to check that they have reached a safe internal temperature.

[Spy Car]

Is it dangerous to eat dry kibble? It may contain harmful bacteria.

It also may (and almost assuredly does) contain ingredients that have been condemned by USDA inspectors and/or comes from dead, dying, diseased, or downed animals.

The laws allow pet-food companies to put dead dogs into dog food kibble for Cripes sake.

Many people get sick after handling kibble every year. Many dogs have been killed due to foul contaminants in pet “food.”

Dogs are not people. They handle raw food very well.

Please stop the nonsense.

Bill

• This reply was modified 6 years, 7 months ago by Spy Car.

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